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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2021
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:54:00 -
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While I agree that having seven lopsided turrets on the Mach is unsightly and quite an annoying turn-off, I don't think saying "move a high to a mid' is going to get any results. Instead, just reduce the turrets to six, roll the seventh turret's damage into the damage bonus (not the RoF, please, artillery users and people who care about ammo consumption play EVE too) and then reduce the fittings accordingly without moving any slots. Two utility highs sounds spectacular to me, and presents much fewer balancing ramifications than an additional mid or low. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2021
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:56:00 -
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SubStandard Rin wrote: And please increase dronebay I would like to Carry spare ones. i can only Carry. 2 sentry 2 heavy 5 light With the change
The Mobile Depot called. It wanted me to tell you that you can load up your drone bay with one type, carry the other type in your cargo hold, switch them out at will without docking up, and stop complaining.
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2031
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Posted - 2014.04.17 19:08:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:What I and many others are saying that in order to make use of this power it is necessary to remove one drone link augmentor as this is replaced by the extra turret (no spare slot to fit it)
Let me be the first to welcome you to EVE Online, a game where you have to make decisions and compromises and where choices have consequences.
You can still fit your Rattlesnake the "old" way if you want, nobody's taking that away from you. They're giving you the additional choice of fitting it a new way. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2036
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Posted - 2014.04.18 13:45:00 -
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ITTigerClawIK wrote:so, CCP Rise... on a scale of 1 to 10 how terrified are you now that capitals and super capitals are next on your list of things to re-balance?
Black Ops, Logistics, Hictors, Recons, T3s. Possibly a quick glossing-over of Freighters and JFs, with only the most minor of changes just to say "they weren't left out".
There's a lot of stuff left to be rebalanced before Caps/Supers need to come up.
Honestly, balancing T3s is the true terror compared to dealing with caps/supers. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2036
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:09:00 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Last Wolf wrote:You could say that about ANY ship. Just jam it, then kill it! Well DUH, why has no-one ever thought of THAT before... /sarcasm Funny thing is - It is a drone boat. Does jamming a drone boat usually take out 80% of its potential Dps, or are the drones still applying Dps? But wait, if a drone boat "isn't fit for drones. what happens? Sarcasm, lol.. Yes because jamming drone boats is so successful everyone does it. Really is that your best effort?
Now now, you're both the prettiest little girl. So stop fighting about it.
The rattlesnake has six lows. Stacking penalties mean you can stop adding damage mods when you have three; the fourth isn't really worth it. Can you see where I'm going with this? On second thought, probably not.
Three DDA II, three BCU II. No DCU because apparently everyone seems to agree you don't need them or something.
Congratulations! Your post-rebalance Rattlesnake is now successfully fitted for both good drone DPS and good missile DPS. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2038
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Posted - 2014.04.19 01:50:00 -
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I don't understand where this "boni" nonsense came from. It's "bonuses". Get a dictionary if you don't believe me.
More to the point: Has anyone considered what the tracking and speed will be on a pair of post-rebalance Berserker IIs that are powered by a pair of tracking-scripted OTLs?
How about Mediums? Post-rebalance Gila-bonused Mediums powered in such a way will definitely shred frigates.
To Epicurius: At the dire risk of being labeled a troll and blocked for daring to disagree with your opinion, are you seriously oblivious to the fact that a drone control range bonus being baked into the hull is ludicriously overpowered?
You're not asking for a "small" thing. You're asking for a gigantic thing that would totally break the ship's balance. Maybe you would fit your RS with a fifth launcher, but what if I decide to stick with four launchers and use that baked-in bonus along with the DLA I was already fitting and achieve incredible super-sniper range?
Choices and compromises. Trade-offs and consequences. This is EVE.
My last reply to you was in fact straight-faced and deadly serious. Too bad you're unable to understand simple truth when it's put right in front of you and think that all forms of disagreement are "bullshit and trolling". You're being just as blind and ignorant about this as you were with the SoE ships and their hacking bonuses. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2038
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Posted - 2014.04.19 03:26:00 -
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What Epicurius seems to be missing here is that there is much more to ship balancing than just DPS. There are also factors such as application and projection of damage, mobility, tank, etc.
My solution? Let the ship go live as-is. It looks very good to me. It's clearly not bonused around light drones, and the drones it is bonused around are going to be monstrous. Your light drones should never be more than 10k from the ship anyhow.
If you're worried about frigs, the missile bonuses apply to RLMLs and now you'll be able to fit five of them. Carry some in your cargo along with a few reloads of light missiles. If it looks like you're going to need them, drop a Mobile Depot and refit accordingly.
If you're in low/nullsec, then Vico Hur's post applies.
I really don't see any problem with the Guristas ships. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2045
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Posted - 2014.04.19 15:18:00 -
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Disclaimer: I edited out a few lines and some childish behavior from the following quotes. It's enough a wall of text as it is without perpetuating the nonsense too.
epicurus ataraxia wrote:Quote of the day "There are none so blind as those who will not see"
Alvatore, Somehow i post yet another long post explaining the whole situation and you totally ignore what I say to keep to your previous preconception of what you think I mean.
Are you sure we are speaking the same language?
I specifically address these points, and bring them to attention, and somehow it is me who does not consider them?
Considering that I have explained what you want is are bad and you keep insisting that it is deathly necessary or somehow the Rattlesnake will "fail"? I'm really not sure we're speaking the same language. To be honest, I'm not even sure you aren't some kind of incredibly dedicated troll. You just keep repeating yourself endlessly, attempting to drown out all dissent and I keep refuting your demands the exact same way again and again. Hopefully an ISD will ban both of us from posting in this thread forever.
Quote:EPICURUS does not want an extra buff,
Putting these ships out as they are, will be like opening a bridge without it's structural supports, it will not end well.
Unless the issues discussed are dealt with, The superdrone concept will now not have the chance to be cleanly evaluated.
Did you say somewhere that you want the missile bonus, the shield bonus or the role bonus removed in exchange for a drone control range bonus and/or in exchange for a bonus to Light Drones? Perhaps you can point me to one of your posts in the last 44 pages that says "remove the missile bonus and give it a bonus to drone control range" or "remove the super-drone bonus and give it a bonus to light drones" or, you know, something along those lines.
Asking for a drone control range bonus to be baked into the hull on top of the bonuses it already has is asking for an extra buff. Asking for a bonus to light drones on top of the bonuses it already has is asking for an extra buff.
The benefits you get from a DLA are not a ship buff. Don't get confused and think that the ship has a certain inherent property just because you absolutely always fit it a certain way. That's a module, not the ship.
Also, the "super-drone" mechanic can be "cleanly evaluated" just fine. Get into attack range and let them do their thing.
Quote:However if we ignore the issues that are staring us in the face to give you, your "super-buff missile boat with drones too! Gäó" , the rage against superdrones will be horrific to witness, and the superdrones will be entirely the wrong target and wrongly despised.
So then, what you're saying is... people are going to hate the super-drones? People are going to hate the super-drones because light drones aren't bonused? How does that even work?
Attempting to avoid the "too many quotes" error, I removed the "pillars of drone support" thing. I just want to address it with one question: If light drones so badly need a bonus in order to protect the ship from frigates, how do unbonused lights do such a good job protecting my TFI?
Quote:The superdrone Idea is an excellent one, it will particuarly change the way we use drone cruisers, free from the shackles of nurse-maiding sentries, free to roam the battlefield.. CCP Rise has hit the ball out of the park with this one, it is an excellent idea. And valid on all classes of ships as well.
Why are you even bringing up the Gila in the Battleship thread? There's a cruiser thread for that. Go over there. In this one, stick to the Rattlesnake.
Somehow I'm not over the quote limit yet so I'll just quote this last one as a great big block.
Quote:But if it is not implemented as PART of the drone weapon system, retaining the pillars of supporting smaller drones, and control range that matches the range of the drones it fields, then it will appear to fail. It will fail because it was not implemented well, to satisfy those who wanted extra DPS at all costs. Believing that somehow hurting the drone systems, will balance out the extra power given to the missiles.
It will be an opportunity lost forever, CCP will NEVER get a second chance to make a good first impression, they will either drop it, or be forever playing catch-up.
So in a nutshell, retain bonuses to drones smaller than the primary weapon system (Keeping the same number of effective light drones) , retain the drone control range currently utilised by players with the fitting of 2 DLA. Give a reasonable buff to missile damage or application, not an extra launcher.
You don't need bonuses on smaller drones. Unbonused lights do just fine as long as you're paying attention to them and have done for a very, very long time now (to be clear, this is against NPCs in frigates. Against players in frigates, you're pretty much done for - and pretty much stupid for picking a solo fight with/getting caught alone by frigates).
I don't know what exactly is going on in your head, but there's no "first impression" here. The Rattlesnake has been around for a long time. If it needs to be looked at again in the future, they'll look at it and change the stats as necessary. You can leave the histrionics out of this.
So in a nutshell, CCP has decided that the current Guristas line is too close in form and function to the existing T1/T2 Gallente line and came up with an innovative (and I dare say very risky) way of differentiating the two. They've created a very unique line of ships with very interesting fitting choices built in. They've even gone so far as to make sure the ships can be flown more-or-less the same way they already are, so long as their pilots are prepared to compromise.
Unfortunately, this seems completely unreasonable to some. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2046
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Posted - 2014.04.19 15:49:00 -
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I'm amused. I am, for once, actually amused by something you've written. That post was so full of theatrics, hyperbole and baseless assumptions that I simply can't not be amused.
Power creep. It's bad. Very bad. It's also what you're asking for. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2046
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Posted - 2014.04.19 16:06:00 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:I'm just not understanding what is wrong with 81km drone control range (my skills + T2 DLA) and great DPS. What efficient play style is really bring handicapped by that? I'm talking about both PVP and PVE here. Particularly for PVE, I just don't see the problem. Rats are rarely further than that and if they are, they'll come closer.
The apparent problem is being unable to snipe with sentries all the way out to maximum cruise range, somehow being unable to kill frigates before they get within web/scram range and then being unable to kill them with unbonused T2 light drones. I guess the problem is quite serious and CCP's entire balancing effort is going to be undermined and destroyed. Or something.
I don't see any of these problems myself, but then again I'm just a projectile pilot. None of my ships (Republic Fleet line) have bonuses to any kind of drones (which I quite frequently use - successfully - to clear away small ships), let alone reliable damage application with my primary weapon system. |
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2063
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Posted - 2014.04.19 18:30:00 -
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Doggy Dogwoofwoof wrote: Why should the rattlesnake Not have to sacrifice.
If you make the Rattlesnake sacrifice, then something or other about twisted, horrific, stunted trees and totalitarian governments of people wearing grey clothes. At least, that's what he said before. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2063
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Posted - 2014.04.19 18:49:00 -
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Tempban Darkfall wrote:There is a reason why the snake was only going for 400 mil when the other pirate faction battleships were going for more than twice as much.
Guristas space is thoroughly occupied by Goons and others of the CFC, who hunt, farm, massacre, destroy and otherwise burn down everything that so much as smells like a Guristas site. This means that there's a larger supply of Guristas stuff, compared to other pirate factions.
If the Guristas ships were farmed at the same level as the Machariel, Nightmare and Vindicator, rather than orders of magnitude more than those ships, I very strongly suspect the price for the Rattlesnake would be closer to 700m. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2065
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Posted - 2014.04.19 19:16:00 -
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Yeah, um... no. Learn to use the market tools that CCP gives you. The price for Rattlesnakes has been climbing for the last ten days, with a sharper upturn in price once the changes were announced. The 5-day average shows the price spiking briefly and now coming down slightly, either because supply has increased or the initial demand has been satisfied. In either case, both the 5-day and 20-day averages are showing that Rattlesnakes are now 500~530m, which is definitely more than the 400~450m they've spent the last six months at.
It hasn't "dropped by hundreds of millions" at all. Stop drinking antifreeze. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2065
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Posted - 2014.04.19 19:30:00 -
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I'm curious to see this "evidence" that the price of the Rattlesnake has "dropped by hundreds of millions". Please produce said evidence presently or cease your Chicken-Little prattling nonsense.
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2065
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Posted - 2014.04.19 19:41:00 -
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Nope. 597m in Dodixie, even more expensive than in Jita. Try again. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2065
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Posted - 2014.04.19 19:56:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Doggy Dogwoofwoof wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Nope. 597m in Dodixie, even more expensive than in Jita. Try again. Try buy price or prices actually achieved, much better indicator of demand, Or do you always buy to sell orders? Must remember that.... Average Buying price for Snakes are 500 Mil At the moment Hmm average, is that the one where there is no world hunger and everyone has a $250,000 dollar salary? Average means nothing, how much were they fetching when they were announced, how much now, what is the trend. Hint:- through the floor
If you trained Market Proficiency to something other than II, you might actually have a clue what you're talking about and not have to resort to theatrics and avoiding the subject. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2065
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Posted - 2014.04.19 20:00:00 -
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Since April 13th, there has not been a single Rattlesnake sold in Dodixie for less than 500m ISK. Jita and Amarr reflect the same. /topic
@ Arthur: You at least own a Nestor, right? |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2065
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Posted - 2014.04.19 20:05:00 -
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On the contrary, the evidence in front of my own eyes is telling me the complete and total opposite of everything you're saying. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2065
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Posted - 2014.04.20 01:12:00 -
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Give it up, people. He's not going to post anything you can actually make any use of. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2065
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Posted - 2014.04.20 01:19:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:It would interest me to know how many people relied on using light drones on a battleship platform, and for what.
My TFI relies on light drones to kill rat frigs that get in under my 800s. Because sometimes it happens. My testing Vargur on SiSi relies on them for the same purpose, but mostly relies on salvage drones while the 800s make more wrecks. |
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2068
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Posted - 2014.04.20 02:00:00 -
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I like the versatility and general usefulness that drones provide, but I hate - freaking hate - the micromanagement. That's probably why all my ships feature drones as a distant second.
These changes to the Rattlesnake, however. Fewer drones with significantly more HP per drone? Useful missiles on top of that, allowing me to focus the fit around missiles, drones or both depending on the situation and my mood at the time? Well now, this is a ship that just got interesting. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2080
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Posted - 2014.04.21 06:11:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Hardly surprising that ship balancing threads are a bloodbath. When the loudest believe they must win at whatever cost to the people who use them.
The irony in this post is unbelievable. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2080
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Posted - 2014.04.21 07:11:00 -
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With the current changes, every pirate battleship will have a useful and unique specialty on the field:
Vindicator: Webs (I seem to recall it also has very good melee-range DPS?)
Bhaalgorn: Cap warfare
Machariel: Speed (both warp and subwarp), agility
Rattlesnake: MURDER
Excellent work, CCP Rise. I'm not even being sarcastic. Really. I'm not. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2081
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Posted - 2014.04.21 07:34:00 -
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Sixty pages. Can we talk about something else now?
I, for one, am absolutely horrible at reading agility stats no matter what. Exactly how significant is the agility nerf on the Machariel? Objective statements only, if that's okay. I'm not looking for opinions. Opinions are how we get flame wars. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2081
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Posted - 2014.04.21 09:08:00 -
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Still going at it with the hyperbole, strawmen and flat-out silliness, Epicurius?
Baltec isn't trolling you. KaDa en Bauldry isn't trolling you either.
The only one trolling you is yourself. I'm quite serious. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2081
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Posted - 2014.04.21 09:13:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Shall I start campaigning to have auto cannons on mining barges because it makes sense to me, miners need to defend themselves etc, what about hybrid bonuses on amarr hulls, after all lasers are the worst performing weapon system, let's do it and drain eve of yet more color and intrigue.
Plus eve is not a space shooter.
In the future, please decorate your posts with fewer strawmen.
They are, after all, quite flammable. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2082
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Posted - 2014.04.21 09:45:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:I'm disappointed in you a Alvatore, it's not a strawman to suggest that racial bonuses have racial flavour, after all this is a game in which you get to create a character in an imaginary yet consistent world and pick a race..
No, it's not a strawman to suggest such a thing at all. Your examples, however, are where the strawman comes in. If I were to respond in kind, I would say things like "I'm disappointed with the wild and deliberately extreme examples you used", but I'm not actually going to say that.
To be quite honest with you, I totally agree that whenever possible, racial bonuses should reflect racial flavor - as should that race's ships. The great big all-important caveat to that belief, however, is that this is first and foremost a game and situations can and do arise where game mechanics and game balance have to come first. Rise already explained why he put the drone bonus where he did, and I find his reasoning to be sensible.
I admit that the entire line of thinking hinges on finding Rise's balance-oriented explanation to be reasonable, so if you disagree with Rise's reasoning then there may be no way to rectify your concerns. Regardless, I'll explain how I see things.
With the drones handled by a Role Bonus, the only things left are the Shield and Missile Bonuses. Which one would you prefer that the Gallente be given? Certainly, not all Caldari ships use missiles but then again not all Gallente ships lack launcher hardpoints. While the players have taken it upon themselves to create effective shield-tank loadouts for Gallente ships, one must remember that Gallente are oriented around armor tanking - specifically, active armor (passive armor goes to the Amarr). Caldari ships, on the other hand, are designed around shield tanking and I have yet to hear anything about successful armor tanks on a Caldari ship (they may exist, but I don't know of any).
With these things in mind, at least to me it becomes clear that the shield bonus is much more "uniquely Caldari" than the missile bonus, meaning that the missile bonus should be given to the Gallente side of things (even if it is a bit awkward) so that the shield bonus may be given to the Caldari side.
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2083
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Posted - 2014.04.21 10:03:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Well...Its not like anyone ever fits shields to Dominixes or ishtars is it.
You really should train Reading Comprehension to II.
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2083
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Posted - 2014.04.21 10:16:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:The same way drones do, remove a launcher to fit it and they are borked. Have you not realised how few high slots the rattlesnake has yet? Maybe that is why you cannot understand our concerns, every one matters! I see you dont know what a utility high is.
He may or may not be living in a world where CONCORD will destroy your Rattlesnake and GCC you for undocking without a DLA in the utility high. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2085
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Posted - 2014.04.21 10:51:00 -
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A pilot who is not operating at sniping ranges does not need the DLA. A Rattlesnake has plenty of tank to handle being within 60km. |
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2087
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Posted - 2014.04.21 13:10:00 -
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The disconnect from reality going on here is literally comedy gold. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2087
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Posted - 2014.04.21 13:49:00 -
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I am ever-hopeful that one day, I'll stop being so easy to bait and troll and stop replying to people who drink antifreeze... one day.
This is not that day.
epicurus ataraxia wrote:I am glad you think so. It is easy to think that only one poster disagrees with you, when you disregard them when they post, troll them and seem to forget about them just as quickly. Lots of people are fed up to the back teeth with it. Not that Baltec needs anyone to speak up for him, but he has done none of those things. You might be confusing him for yourself, throwing around terms like "lots of people", "everyone", "drone pilots" as if you are the chosen representative for a group who mysteriously cannot represent their own views on their own behalf.
Where are these "lots of people"? Where is your evidence of this? Your own 30 pages of long-winded nonsense do not constitute "lots of people", nor do the couple of alts I am 95% sure you have brought in to "support" your viewpoint.
There aren't very many things I do very well in this world, but identifying sentence structure and writing style is definitely one of them.
Quote:As for Ranting I suggest that that word does not mean what you think it means. Pretty much like every post that everyone has made that you do not like.
I know reading is like ~effort~
No, you're absolutely ranting. The overwhelming walls of text you've been posting would get any other thread locked. You're not trying to be constructive or provide feedback anymore - that stopped long ago - and are simply arguing with other posters, making up baseless and absurd assumptions about them, berating and attempting to slander them for disagreeing with you and attempting to explain the situation to you. Quite frankly, I find your constant insistence that I have been trolling you and posting with alts to be extremely offensive, but it doesn't help anything for me to get worked up over it.
Quote:But even on this page,In fact even in the post you are quoting, you will find that your assumptions about what I think are completely and totally false. But you know this already. never let facts and information get in the way.
No matter how much you try to shift and dodge, no matter where you pretend to move the goalposts to, your agenda has always been clear, and you've made sure that your manifesto has been plastered all over every single pixel of forum space you can get your proverbial hands on. You are offended that the light drones do not have bonuses anymore and are quite convinced for some unknowable reason that the Rattlesnake's very existence depends on those drones having bonuses even when other battleships do just fine - more than just fine - clearing frigates (and in some cases even cruisers) with unbonused light drones. Nobody's mistaking you on that. We're all just quite sure from our years of experience flying battleships with unbonused light drones that you are completely, utterly and irrevocably WRONG.
[/quote]At least try to give the impression that you are paying attention. 1/10 troll must try harder ( +5 for the fact I replied, -4 for it being a really bad troll)[/quote]
I don't even know what to say. Telling others to pay attention? Really, Epicurus? Are you quite certain about that?
Quote:Edit. Oh here is the post that you are so desperately trying to bury in the swarm of trolls that you do not want people to see. Wonder why? Link Redacted Due To Spam
There are certainly forces at work in this thread attempting to bury things, but the forces are not us and the things attempting to be buried are any semblance of constructive, intelligent discussion. Thirty pages of this nonsensical bullshit. For god sakes, stop it already. Some of us want to talk about ships other than the Rattlesnake, but none of us can do any such thing until this godforsaken sperg war of shiptoasting comes to an end.
Enough already!
Note: My apologies for not mentioning it earlier, but thank you for the concise and effective reply regarding the Machariel, Baltec. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2090
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Posted - 2014.04.21 14:39:00 -
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Ahernar wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: The current Rattlesnake is a mission and anom runner, nothing CCP is changing if going to kill it's ability to run missions.
You lack the positive sec status usually asociated with missioning competence :) Let a true carebear to speak about ships and missions , please ...
Because nobody in EVE Online has alts, right? You may have forgotten that little detail. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2090
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Posted - 2014.04.21 14:42:00 -
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"Japan-Issue Dominix"? You mean that Rogue Drone one? I thought CCP put the nails in that coffin a while ago, saying something very close to "rogue drone ships would consume the capsuleer inside them". |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2090
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Posted - 2014.04.21 14:46:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:"Japan-Issue Dominix"? You mean that Rogue Drone one? I thought CCP put the nails in that coffin a while ago, saying something very close to "rogue drone ships would consume the capsuleer inside them". Doesnt stop us wanting it. Its like my wish for a mega with a capital jump drive bolted onto it.
Fair enough. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2090
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Posted - 2014.04.21 15:24:00 -
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Try two missile rigs and, since this is a pirate ship, maybe use a T2 for one of them. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2102
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Posted - 2014.04.22 06:01:00 -
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Fabulous Rod wrote: Nobody trains a snake because they want specialized high-DPS. That's probably because right now, the Rattlesnake doesn't even provide it. Right now, the Rattlesnake doesn't provide anything worth training for except drones (which other ships can do equally well or better) and a heavy shield tank for AFKing.
If you don't like it, vote with your subscription. Please. I encourage it. |
Alvatore DiMarco
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Posted - 2014.04.22 08:09:00 -
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Oh dear. The ISD just cleaned the thread and it looks like we're already going back down that road... |
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Posted - 2014.04.22 14:27:00 -
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...A sixth launcher?
Arthur, has your bitterness over the Nestor finally snapped your mind in twain?
That would make the Rattlesnake the omfgwtfbbqpwnsauce solopwnmcrapemobile of the year.
Don't ever make me type that again. |
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:07:00 -
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Fabulous Rod wrote:All that wind and you ignore the fact that the Rattlesnake does not need these changes. All it needs is more high/mid/low slots.
It's not going to get more slots. Not now, not tomorrow, not next year. Deal with it. |
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Posted - 2014.04.22 23:14:00 -
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I believe Rise even went so far as to say that capacitor issues on Sansha ships are intentional. |
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Posted - 2014.04.22 23:51:00 -
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elitatwo wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:I believe Rise even went so far as to say that capacitor issues on Sansha ships are intentional. I did read that, thanks. Yet I believe that was for the power level those ships had at the time of Apocrypha. Everything has been buffed in that area and none of the sansha ships are consideres dps-solo-wft-bbq-pwn-mobiles.
Nope. Rise said it in this year's batch of pirate threads. |
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Posted - 2014.04.23 00:09:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:I wouldn't say wise, I belive that megathrons belong in frigate gangs.
Even wise men have bizzare quirks.
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Posted - 2014.04.23 03:13:00 -
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I am ever-hopeful that CCP Rise will poke his proverbial head into the thread very very soon (within the next couple of days) and say "Great news! The pirate ship changes are in the next SiSi build which will be deploying tomorrow morning."
I feel like the thread has basically stopped and is now circling around and around - and will continue to do so until the changes can actually be tested.
By the way, if someone with a blue forum tag and database powers on SiSi is listening, can we have a covert cloaking Nestor for about a week just so everyone can see how it wouldn't actually make the ship better? Please? Well, I already know the answer to that, I guess. |
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Posted - 2014.04.23 11:15:00 -
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The new Rattlesnake makes frigates and cruisers obsolete. Fozzie and Rise are going to have to start all over again, rebalancing T1 frigs and cruisers so that there's a reason to fly them instead of just launching the Rattlesnake's super-drones. |
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Posted - 2014.04.23 11:55:00 -
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Why shouldn't the new Snake be a brawler, exactly? |
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Posted - 2014.04.24 12:42:00 -
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I wasn't going to reply. I was going to be civilized and well-mannered. Then I saw this:
epicurus ataraxia wrote:But these posts are not moving things onwards, so I am a little tired now, as every one of your replies is either an attack as you know best, or a disruption to cause mayhem.
No. Absolutely not. You do not get to be that much of a hypocrite and actually get away with it.
You are the only one whose posts cause mayhem. When you were gone, this thread was becoming constructive and useful. Then you came back and we're right back where we were. You said you were leaving this thread. Do it. |
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Posted - 2014.04.24 22:43:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Malcanis wrote:
I think it's OK for a navy faction ship to be a little worse than a comparable pirate faction one (eg: fleetpest vs Mach)
While I agree, I don't think a full set of bonused drones counts as a little better. But eh, I suppose the fitting differences are what really make that up.
Malcanis was understating, I believe.
At any rate, I agree with him. |
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Posted - 2014.04.25 07:12:00 -
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The "summer" expansions tend to hit in June or so. |
Alvatore DiMarco
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Posted - 2014.04.26 07:07:00 -
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Perhaps the pirate changes should have been left until after the drone changes. Change EWAR drones to not be terrible, tell all the Guristas pilots "We're giving your ships ewar drone bonuses instead of attack drone bonuses" and give the SoE ships the superdrones.
Initiate rage, tears, and an astoundingly logical new development path for Guristas while also making SoE ships a lot nicer to fly.
Also: Ataraxia - Even if you become enraged when someone says it to you, you are pretty stubbornly refusing to look at the ship from any point of view except your own. |
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Posted - 2014.04.26 07:14:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Well not quite, definitely more of a missile emphasis with the current proposals, but so nearly there, so near.
I assure you, it is quite obvious to literally everyone except you that the missile emphasis is extremely deliberate and quite definitely intended.
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Alvatore DiMarco
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Posted - 2014.04.26 07:58:00 -
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ISD, please lock this thread. Permanently. |
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Posted - 2014.04.26 08:02:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Well not quite, definitely more of a missile emphasis with the current proposals, but so nearly there, so near. I assure you, it is quite obvious to literally everyone except you that the missile emphasis is extremely deliberate and quite definitely intended. Please get it through your head that this is the way CCP wants it to be and no amount of arguing from you - or anyone else - will change that. Please get it through your head that smaller drones will not get HP or damage bonuses on the Rattlesnake - no matter how much you argue, flame or abuse others. I have tried to hold my tongue, if you and your friends, or alts, or just sympathisers, i really to not care are attempting to get your Victim to respond with threats of violence or racial slurs or some other behavior, to get him banned. You are sad sad and mistaken. You (singular or group) have for some reason picked me out as a victim, totally make up what I am meant to have said, and in little cycles, while your posts still exist, attempt to cause as much psychological harm and upset as is humanly possible.those coming new, will naturally wonder what is going on as they have not seen the ongoing nature of this (thank God!) You forget the EvE-O forums are real world! My wife and family are disgusted that such behaviour is permitted or even legal and have suggested that such bullying should be reported to the police. As EvE is international and knowing which countries laws might apply, even if illegal in most, I have suggested that It be left to the moderators, as it has recently been seen to be effective recently with erotica1 So respectfully STOP I did not choose to be a victim of your gang warfare.
I am not going to stop discussing the Rattlesnake in a thread intended for discussing the Rattlesnake. Get out if it's too much for you.
Nobody is victimizing you by telling you that you are wrong. Nobody is "bullying you" by telling you that you aren't looking at the whole picture.
Get out of this thread. Just get the **** out. I have never felt more disgusted in my life and I promise that your post has been reported for trolling and for personal attacks. |
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Posted - 2014.04.26 08:07:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:ISD, please lock this thread. Permanently. Or is that why you have attacked me so mercilessly, to make sure that anyone who wants to discuss this and suggests changes, either is broken by you and your friends (whatever) and not just to bully and torture them for your sadistic pleasure? So you actually have a reason too?
Nobody has attacked you, you little- ...no, I'm not going to finish that sentence. I'm going to be civilized and reasonably mature for a change.
The things I would like to say to you right now would get me banned from EVE until the year 9999. This post is so ******* ridiculous that it's even worse than Dinsdale's posts. |
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Posted - 2014.04.26 08:38:00 -
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KaDa en Bauldry wrote:Sadly - while his work and posting is valuable - it's not the kind I'm hoping for the most.
Ah well, time to fire up SiSi again soon.
"Hoping for the most"? You may have to educate me on wha-
...oh, I think I get it.
You're saying you'd rather not "settle" for something when what you really want is something else. Am I right? |
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:53:00 -
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I have a suspicion that the CPU was deliberately not increased when the extra missile hardpoint was added, and I'm very willing to wager that the CPU was left untouched "to create interesting fitting choices". |
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Posted - 2014.05.28 16:38:00 -
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Fabulous Rod wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Fabulous Rod wrote: Matter of fact I trained for heavy drones when I was a noob, not realizing they sucked against killing frigates. I tested it again with the Gecko with the same conclusion.
You clearly don't know WTF you are talking about. Just another overly vocal know-it-all who learned everything from the forums.
I would love to hear how you would attempt to explain away the fact that it actually works on SiSi, then. moron. Why do you keep putting your dumbass opinion on here? Nobody gives a damn what a no-life idiot, like you, thinks.
Answer the question, troll. It's valid. |
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Posted - 2014.05.28 16:47:00 -
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I haven't looked in this thread for a month and it's still a raging festival of shiptoasting and trolls.
Hooray.
This must be why other developers don't look for feedback on their ideas before they change their game. |
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Posted - 2014.05.28 16:54:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:I haven't looked in this thread for a month and it's still a raging festival of shiptoasting and trolls.
Hooray.
This must be why other developers don't look for feedback on their ideas before they change their game. We did get to figure out that a mack will now earn over 80 mil/hr in highsec level 3 missions
I can't fly a mack, but trying it for myself might encourage me to change that. |
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Posted - 2014.05.28 18:34:00 -
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I love how a certain poster's ninja-edits keep getting caught when his original posts are quoted before he can edit them. |
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Posted - 2014.06.01 02:16:00 -
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If you're really that paranoid about spider drones, drop a mobile depot and refit to rapid precision lights. When they're dead, refit back to cruises or torps or frigate launchers or whatever you started with. |
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:33:00 -
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How are your complaints of things being slow any different from the way it is now?
Nothing about a battleship is fast. |
Alvatore DiMarco
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Posted - 2014.06.05 14:44:00 -
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A few pages back someone posted some kind of nonsense about being unable to change turret/missile sizes while in space.
I thought I'd use this middle of this god-awful dead horse beating to point out that yes you can indeed change weapon sizes while in space.
If you don't believe me, go ask SiSi.
Anyway, the Rattlesnake has been put onto TQ and you lot are still having the same old stupid fight about the same old stupid nonsense. Do you ever get bored with it?
Priestess Lin - Are you sure you aren't a Fabulous Rod alt? You post exactly like him, which is very interesting - especially since he appears to be on another posting vacation. |
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Posted - 2014.06.05 14:49:00 -
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Nalarin wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Priestess Lin - Are you sure you aren't a Fabulous Rod alt? You post exactly like him, which is very interesting - especially since he appears to be on another posting vacation. He is also Tempban Darkfall and Frumpylumps Faplord, if you care.
I'm mildly concerned that someone even thought of the name "Frumpylumps Faplord", but then again this is EVE so I wonder what I was expecting. |
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Posted - 2014.06.06 03:55:00 -
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This whole ******* thread is because a select little clique of missionbears think that they shouldn't have to change anything ever, even when every other demographic - missionbear, PvPer, industrialist and marketeer alike - have had to change and adapt multiple times.
Pathetic.
I cannot wait for someone with a colored tag to come through and say "this thread has served its purpose" and lock it. |
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Posted - 2014.06.07 14:21:00 -
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I won't even dress it up this time. |
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